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ANDERSON COUNTY — An Anderson man is accusing two deputies with the Anderson County Sheriff’s Office of using excessive force during a traffic stop for a minor infraction.
Thomas Dudley, 56, said a deputy stopped him for a cracked windshield about 10:45 a.m. Friday on Murray Avenue at Lewis Street.
After getting out of his car, Dudley, who was arrested at 10:59 a.m., said a deputy startled him by putting his hand in Dudley’s pocket.
“I flipped his hand, and the other deputy clothes-lined me with his elbow,” said Dudley in making his complaint earlier this week to an “Independent-Mail” reporter. “They put my arms behind me and cuffed me. I kept hollering that I’m not resisting.”
But a deputy kneed him three times in his back, held his neck, hit him three times in the jaw and used a choke hold that made Dudley temporarily pass out, he said.
Dudley said he wants Anderson County Sheriff David Crenshaw to know that his deputies over-reacted.
“They were way out of line,” Dudley said. “They need to stop using excessive force.”
Thursday, Crenshaw, confronted by the reporter with Dudley’s allegations, said Dudley is welcome to make a complaint with his office of professional standards if he wishes to pursue his accusations.
Dudley, who was charged with disorderly conduct and faces a May 23 court date, was released from the Anderson County Detention Center about 8 p.m. Friday with a $250 bond, he said.
The incident report makes no mention of any use of force.
Deputy M. J. Gregory said in his report, which was filed Friday and approved by a supervising officer on Tuesday, that Dudley and two other passengers were riding in a Geo Prism.
When Dudley was asked if he was carrying any weapons, “Dudley took one step back and stated that he did have a pocket knife in his front pocket,” according to Gregory’s report.
When the deputy attempted to search Dudley and touched the outside of his pocket, “Dudley placed his hand over his pocket,” pulled away and then slapped the deputy’s hand when his right pocket was touched, the report states.
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Posted by Yvonned67 on May 8, 2008 at 12:47 p.m.
They Have got Worse Since Crenshaw Has Been In Office.There In Nothing To Show For Him Being Here
Posted by Yvonned67 on May 8, 2008 at 12:48 p.m.
They Have got Worse Since Crenshaw Has Been In Office.There In Nothing Good To Show For Him Being Here
Posted by The_Sundance_Kid on May 8, 2008 at 1:03 p.m.
Why are people getting pulled over for a cracked windshield?
Is Anderson really running that big of an Nanny State???
Isn't there better things that these officers could be out doing instead of pulling people over with Cracked windshields?
It seems the Police have an US Vs. Them(Civilian) mentality and IMO that will not work.
People should see the Police as there friend, but for what ever reason they don't. The force needs to make it their top priority to halt that mentality.
They are obviously doing a poor job at this.
Posted by Niblits on May 8, 2008 at 1:11 p.m.
The complainant stated he had a knife (a weapon) in his pocket and resisted the officer trying to retrieve it, slapping his hand. The procedure was correct in taking the suspect down quickly and with force if necessary and securing the weapon. The guy's an idiot.
Posted by scgirl on May 8, 2008 at 1:30 p.m.
You don't think we could really know what was going on unless we were there. I think it is a shame that we the public are so quick to critize our police officers. These guys are doing there job and can not please everyone. The very people that put them down are the very ones that call the Sheriff's Office for stupid calls and wants the police there right away. Give our officers a break and don't always try to put them down.
Posted by catfish on May 8, 2008 at 1:34 p.m.
The reason that they can't get big name people to perform here is for that reason, if you come to Anderson you're going to be hassled by law enforcement. I've had people from NC, GA and TN ask me how I could live here when they found out where I was from. The reputation of Anderson proceeds it.
Posted by The_Sundance_Kid on May 8, 2008 at 1:59 p.m.
I would love to see Video of the event, from the sound of it it should have been caught on the dash board cam.
Wonder what steps one would have to go through to access those.
To me this just seems excessive for a cracked windshield.
Why would they want to take his knife anyway, he had a CRACKED WINDSHIELD, he wasn't threating them...
I'd like to know why he was even out of the car.
Posted by sportsdad on May 8, 2008 at 2:22 p.m.
The deputies have to have something to do. If not people would complain. Just like today at 1:00 pm there were 4 deputy cars parked at the old Kroger building talking. There pay is low so don't expect too much. Remember.. You get what you pay for.
Posted by theflash on May 8, 2008 at 2:35 p.m.
Good work Sheriff Crenshaw,Good Job, deputy`s, and please Sheriff continue to stand behind your men.For the arrest of this individual, Pat those deputy`s on the back and tell them the flash appreciates them. I have never had a need for the law enforcement of Anderson County but if I ever do call please send these same deputy`s I feel they will do whatever is necessary to carry out their assigned duty, again thank you today, I`ll thank you again in June.
Posted by scgirl on May 8, 2008 at 3:51 p.m.
sportsdad
That was not deputy cars. That was cars that belong to the City Of Anderson PD not the county. The county deputies have plenty to do and not enough time to do what they do have to do. They usually have to time after work just getting caught up on paper work from calls from people that have nothing more to do than call the police.
I hope from now on you can tell the difference from the 2 departments cars. Maybe the City offices don't have anymore to do than sit, but if you see a county deputy sitting they will be working on paper work.
Posted by tanyawest78 on May 8, 2008 at 4:29 p.m.
To everyone complaining about the deputies, if you think you can do their job any better, then please be my guest. Go to the Sheriffs office and put in an application, and we will see how long you last. There is only a few of them and thousands of us. Crenshaw is doing a lot better than the previous administration. That department was a mess when he took over. So many people are eager to be so negative of Crenshaw. If you can do better then by all means run for the office. So many people ignore the great things he has done for the officers and the people of this county. For example, what about the national award the sheriff's office received earlier this year for getting drugs off the street. Guess most people did not feel the need to comment since nothing negative could be said about it. Here is the article, it is on the straight talk forum as well:
ANDERSON COUNTY — The Anderson County Sheriff’s Office has been honored for its work in getting drugs off the street.
The Sheriff’s office was named the winner of the 2007 National Interdiction Team of the Year, presented by the National Criminal Enforcement Association in Greensboro, N.C.
Anderson County was recognized for the amount of narcotics and money seized by interdiction teams.
In 2007, the Sheriff handled 461 cases with a total of 449 defendants, Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Susann Griffin said in a statement.
Those cases, she said, resulted in the seizure of more than 346,700 grams of drugs (more than 764 pounds). Additionally, the sheriff’s office seized $727,156 in cash and 19 vehicles.
“We took about $15 million worth of drugs, off the streets and out of the hands of kids, that’s best part,” Sheriff David Crenshaw said in an interview.
Since the award is given based statistical information submitted by participating agencies, the sheriff’s office had best numbers, in terms drug busts and seizures of all 2,500 participating law enforcement agencies in the United States and Canada, the release said.“It really helps your pride a little bit, it’s even sweeter because it’s your peers who give it to you. It’s really sought after in the law enforcement community,” the sheriff said.
Kudos to Sheriff Crenshaw and his department. He will get my vote in June :)
Posted by forrester123 on May 8, 2008 at 4:57 p.m.
in response to tanyawest78
Crenshaw is not doing better than the previous admin. Talk to some of us who have been there for both. I couldn't tell you what he has done for officers besides reduce our pay and hire deputies with no experience after getting rid of deputies with a lot of experience. Just offering some observations from someone who works there. I have too much time invested to go elsewhere and will continue to do my best at my job like most of us here because what I like to do is help people and not be pressured politically - and we are.
Posted by dwhit29689 on May 8, 2008 at 5:51 p.m.
This Dudley guy is fortunate to be alive. If I would have tried the same offensive maneuver with a deputy I'd expect to be at least unconscious and have to hire lawyers to get out of the fix I put myself in. Resisting an officer is very dangerous and certainly not smart.
Posted by spiderfarm on May 8, 2008 at 6:19 p.m.
in response to Niblits
I have had a pocket knife since I was 12. It is one of the most usefull tools you can have. I do not consider a pocket knife as a weapon.
I think the officers were over reacting,and abusive. I was not there but slapping a hand does not earn a beating!!!
Posted by cityslicker on May 8, 2008 at 8:19 p.m.
First of all, most of you are naive and ignorant if you believe the incident occurred exactly as stated by the person arrested. I guess you believe everything your child tells about what he was doing last weekend until 1AM.
Secondly, I assure you the cracked windshield was not the real reason for the traffic stop. That was the reason he was pulled over, but I assure you the officer was trying to determine if the person was wanted or was up to trouble. Sure it sounds stupid, but it is a tool in the officers’ bag to help deter crime and get the bad guys back in jail and off the streets. If you don’t want to get pulled over it is really simple…. Don’t break the law! If you don’t speed and take care of your car-fix those headlights, taillights, and windshields- then you’re not going to get pulled over.
Thirdly, did it ever occur to you that the police cars parked in a lot are meeting to discuss a warrant they are about to serve? Or possibly they are planning a drug bust or a million other things that every police department in the country does?
It’s so easy to criticize the officers when you don’t think about the fact that they drive around in their “office” and don’t have the luxury of being able to step away from the desk for a smoke break. The officer you see sitting in a lot is probably working on a report, or a warrant, or maybe, just MAYBE he wanted to take a few minutes to stop and eat his lunch at 4pm because he didn’t have time to stop and eat at noon because of the backlog of burglar alarms and other nuisance calls. Really people, you seem to think you know how to manage people so well, why don’t you step up to the plate and run the police department or sheriff’s office. After all, I would love to see how many employee’s would stick around if they couldn’t stop working for one second during their 12 hour shift for fear of what the public would think. Next time you're at work and click on the internet for personal use or lean over and talk to your cubicle mate, think about what you said on this website. Because, after all, you’ve NEVER taken a break at work and ALWAYS give your boss 100% of your abilities 100% of the time you’re at work.
To the public safety professionals out there, keep your head up. Put more bad guys behind bars, keep me and my family safe, and most importantly make sure you go home to YOUR family at the end of the day.
Posted by tanyawest78 on May 8, 2008 at 8:28 p.m.
in response to forrester123
I do talk to someone everyday...my husband. He has worked for both administrations as well and is still with the Sheriffs office.
Posted by guy on May 8, 2008 at 10:30 p.m.
in response to cityslicker
Well said cityslicker....
Posted by lynfo25 on May 8, 2008 at 10:59 p.m.
in response to cityslicker
I agree with you on most every point you made but it is not a crime to have a cracked windshield. Just last summer at a license check I was given a ticket for a very small crack on passenger side of windshield of car I had just bought. Told the officer that I had just got the car 2 days before and was getting new windshield put in Monday (this was on a Saturday). Got ticket anyway. Went to court and was told that it wasn't illegal and did not warrant anything other than a suggestion to get it fixed before it got worse. Was totally a waste of mine and the courts time. This officer was just a jerk and even the judge repremended him and told him he should have known better. Not trying to take up for anyone in this case but the article stated that up until the cop touched his pocket the man was compliant and honest enough to tell about the knife. Wasn't there don't know what happened but there is always 2 sides of a story and unless you are witness to it you can't really say who's telling the truth. I mean it's not like either party is gonna' admit to such. You think a cop is gonna' come out and say "yea I abuse my authority" or a suspect is gonna' say "yea I resisted arrest and gave them a reason for a beat down". Whoever is in the wrong will deny, deny, deny. So it's really hard to say who's being honest. If the man is telling the truth then the cops deserve punishment and vice versa.
Posted by mrjx on May 8, 2008 at 11:45 p.m.
Seems to me that if this guy had nothing to hide, he wouldn't have been trying to hide what was in his pockets. The fact remains that this guy was charged with a crime and he will have his day in court. If he is truly innocent, it will be determined in court. He is trying to side step the system by having this case tried in a public forum...very similar to the tactics of sharpton and other alleged community leaders. If the truth won't set you free, baffle them with your BS.... www.ourtownreport.com
Posted by get_real on May 9, 2008 at 12:05 a.m.
I 'm wondering the same thing as Sundance_Kid.....why was the guy even out of the car? A simple traffic violation does not entitle the police to search someone. What happened to probable cause? I don't think a cracked windshield falls into that category.
I've been stopped for a tail light being out and then another time for no seatbelt and I was not asked to step out of the car and I was not asked if I had any weapons either time. I was given a warning for the light and a ticket for the seatbelt while sitting in my car .
As for whether or not it happened the way the guy says it did , if there was more to it than what he's telling seems like there would be more charges. The only thing he's charged with is disorderly conduct for protesting the search.
Posted by srpoppa3 on May 9, 2008 at 12:16 a.m.
a cracked windsheild is only illegal if it obstructing the drivers view
Posted by cokestevenson on May 9, 2008 at 1:16 a.m.
Is there a video from a camera in the patrol car that can be obtained to show what went down?
Posted by lynfo25 on May 9, 2008 at 1:19 a.m.
in response to srpoppa3
OOOOPS! You are right. The judge did say that any obstruction of drivers view is unsafe and then can be ticketed for driving unsafe vehicle. But mine wasn't so it got thrown out.
Posted by cityslicker on May 9, 2008 at 9:02 a.m.
in response to lynfo25
A key point I was trying to make was you shouldn't take this guys complaint as fact. Everyone should be suspect of the story until more evidence is provided. You Sir, I believe, have done that.
Posted by In_Search_Of_Truth on May 9, 2008 at 9:23 a.m.
how dangerous their job is and all the tough spots they are in does not justify any law enforcement taking the law into their own hands. while i appreciate what they do, they know when they take the job what they are getting in to. to use that as an excuse to exercise excessive force or to overlook probable cause provisions of the law is making them just as guilty as the people they arrest. it has been routine now for officers to frisk people for any reason they choose. the most used is, "now you don't have any sharp instruments, or anything you can hurt me with" or "i'm just trying to make us all safer" results in a large number of the cases of "finding" something illegal on someone's person. this guise is routinely used as a leapfrog of your basic rights (against self incrimination and unlawful search) and is tolerated because the officers claim it makes them safer. it doesn't change the fact they have no probable cause for what they are doing and most people ignorant to the law have no choice but to go along, take the conviction and pay the money. now you know why people are fighting the police, running from them, doing whatever they can to avoid these situations because they know it is not handled fairly. i for one, hate to get stopped for ANYTHING anymore for fear some gungho rookie is gonna "think" or "thought" something and shoot me in the head.
there is a double standard in law enforcement officers who want you to comply with the law, but do not do so themselves. how tough they have it, as much as i understand and sympathize, isn't written into the rule books. the rule book is the same for everyone. sorry, i have a hard time feeling sorry for you, when you don't follow the laws yourself. i find it amazing that police officers around the world handle these same things in their jurisdictions but don't feel a need to shoot/tazer/beatup people that doesn't comply with their orders over a traffic stop. your excuse of a persons non-complaince over misdemeanor issues does not make you judge and jury and executioner.
Posted by lynfo25 on May 9, 2008 at 2:47 p.m.
in response to cityslicker
A: I am not a sir.
B: Where in my comments did I say that I believe either him or the cops? I simply stated that in a situation like this whoever is lying would never admit to it. I am sure of one thing though and that is somebody is lying or at least stretching the truth a little bit. Matter of fact I think I said exactly what you are saying. Just chose my words a little differently.
Posted by lynfo25 on May 9, 2008 at 3:07 p.m.
in response to In_Search_Of_Truth
AMEN.... you said it right. I have respect for cops who behave like cops and not the thugs they are trying to arrest. Alot of times some criminals get to walk simply because a cop misused his/her authority. And it doesn't matter if it was something major or small. I know a guy who robbed an old lady and walked simply because an officer said "turn around you GD crack head thief" , while kinda pushing him onto the car,(a little forceful but not brutal) in front of people. Yep got off scott free and was as guilty as sin. Said the officer had no right to judge him,,, just arrest him. But because he called him a thief and a crackhead in public his lawyer managed to get him off. Not right I know but that's the kind of thing that can happen when you don't follow rules and regulations. Keep in mind people that I am not saying that this man in this particular case is telling the truth. I actually hope he's lying cuz if anything he's saying is true then I would be more leary of being stopped.
Posted by milpd on May 9, 2008 at 3:36 p.m.
It is simple, act like a threat and you will get treated like a threat. YOU dictate the force used by a Police officer. They do not know you from Adam, they already knew you had a knife and you then slap the officer's hand away when he went to search you, come on. Everyone knows you DO NOT ever touch a Police Officer (period)
Posted by altimachic6 on May 9, 2008 at 8:45 p.m.
in response to cityslicker
I agree with you 110%. To the person who has people from NC, TN and GA, My brother in fact is a K-9 and SWAT officer in NC. Things go one there just like this report. BUT think if you pulled over someone you didnt know, and they reached for their pocket and/or wouldnt let you search them, what would you do? I would NOT stand there and take it in the rear, I would have used force as well. Then not to mention the ride to the jail. I would know FOR SURE that there was nothing that person had in their posession while in a car alone with me. I am about sure the "acclaimed innocent man" isnt telling everything. Futher more, if I was in direct danger from a person reaching for their pocket and wouldnt let me search him/her I would only hope that my fellow officers would come to my aide and make sure the criminal wouldnt hurt me.
You go to work and sit in at your office where you are safe and blame the cops all you want, but they are not safe out there on the streets and they will take every step to ensure their safety as well as ours.
Posted by altimachic6 on May 9, 2008 at 8:59 p.m.
in response to cityslicker
cityslicker, agree with you 110%. If I were a cop, I would make sure that there was nothing in the patrol car with me and the criminal that he/she could use against me. I dont believe that the "acclaimed innocent man" is telling everything. I had a crack in my Jeep windshield for about a month or two, never got stopped and yes I rode in cops plain view.
To the person with family in NC, TN, and GA....my brother is k-9 and SWAT in NC and these things happen there as well, espically in the bigger cities like Charlotte. BUT think about it...........
What if you pulled over someone you didnt know, tried to search them to make sure there was nothing they had that they could use to hurt you and they tried to stop you from searching them? Would you just stand there and take it in the rear end or would you use force? I know what I would do and I would protect myself, if it meant using force, you'd better believe it. Like cityslicker said, about all of you going to your office where it is safe, these cops are not safe out on the streets, they have to protect themselves and hope that when they leave their home that they have the chance to return home to their family safely.
What would you be saying on here if they had not searched the guy and they ended up getting killed, or if they let him go and he ended up robbing you or wrecking into your car? No, this article doesnt say this happened but what if? Then what would you say about the cops?
They put their lives on the line everytime they go out to patrol the streets, THANKS.
Posted by guy on May 9, 2008 at 10:08 p.m.
Don't get your panties in a wad over a little banter.
The majority of Anderson law enforcement work diligently for the salary paid.
In most situations of apprehensive movement they are dam--d if they do and dam--d if they don't.
In my opinion, they are more restricted due to a very few LEO's losing control and over reacting
and in most cases are justified.
The individual they stopped could have very easily shot them and then on to a killing spree.
Then what.. Why did the officers allow the perp to get away.
On the front line dealing with the scum of the earth on a daily basis.
When you see them in there cruiser taking a break or chatting with another officer, go up to them and say "Thank You". They need our support and just as much as we need them.
Posted by guy on May 10, 2008 at 1:47 p.m.
"Their cruiser"
Posted by countrybear on May 10, 2008 at 8:21 p.m.
I will straddle the fence on this article. Do police sometimes use excessive force? Probably. Do people exaggerate when describing what the police do to them? Yes. What exactly happened in this situation? I hope it will be adequately investigated and closed. I was once arrested and jerked out of a car. Did I deserve it? Yes!! I am lucky I was not shot. They were doing what our tax dollars pay them to do. I would rather not hear about their income. They did know how much they were going to make when they took the job. It is like saying it is OK
if the person at McDonalds slaps my food together and is rude to me because they don't make enough money. Were they misled about their wages when they took the job?! I do believe they should be making more money. I do not believe that they should ever use that as an excuse. Very few do.
Posted by guy on May 10, 2008 at 9:41 p.m.
in response to countrybear
You are definitely on the fence...Probably more so than deciding on the above article.
Posted by countrybear on May 10, 2008 at 11:21 p.m.
in response to guy
I am on the side of the officer. I appreciate all that they do. They work long hours at a tedious job and are underpaid and un-appreciated. For the most part they all are doing a great job serving and protecting the community which includes me and my family. If you are an officer "Thank you" The next one I see I will tell him personally how much I appreciate them. How about you?
Posted by guy on May 11, 2008 at 8:54 a.m.
in response to countrybear
Totally agree and thanks for the return comment..
BTW I am not a commissioned
LEO.
Posted by uscgang on May 12, 2008 at 12:39 a.m.
in response to forrester123
It's sad that you can't see past your own self pity, because if you could truly open your eyes to see what Crenshaw has done for the CITIZENS. It's sad that you work there with such a poor attitude and you do not deserve the honor which you seek.
Posted by truck10 on May 12, 2008 at 3:01 a.m.
Who is this Capt. Leo? He talks about trying cases and he is not even a lawyer, where does he practice law? I looked into his newsletters which he says he writes for and i think there are 4 members. Law Practice? Is it in his homeland? Cuba? the American Bar Assoc. has no record of him nor does the SC Lawyers. Plus what is he a Captain of? certainly not the military. I think he has a Captain license for his boat on Lake Hartwell. Talk about a wanna be
Posted by consitor_veritas on May 12, 2008 at 5:18 a.m.
in response to truck10
Wow! It really is evident why you were TERMINATED from the fire department. Oh well, maybe those worker's comp benefits will kick in soon and you won't be so bitter. Happy Thanksgiving.
Posted by In_Search_Of_Truth on May 12, 2008 at 8:38 a.m.
On the one hand we have a police force, that some have reported to be somewhat overzealous, particularly if you are poor or not “connected”. On the other hand a citizenry that doesn't like to be pushed around or callously disrespected because of their race or the size of their wallet. Most controversy about excessive force, has its roots in the area of how police officer’s orders are worded and their methods in enforcing everyone’s compliance with their words. The police feel, “you should comply without question.” In backing up that position, they can and do escalate any situation to the point of tazering you, taking you down, handcuffing, beating you down and arresting you merely if you do not immediately “comply”. You say, “isn’t that what you are supposed to do?” I don’t think anyone disagrees with that in principle. I think the issue is, how that privilege is at times abused by the police. It is easier for a human being to get carried away in the performance of their perceived duties if their only justification or explanation has to be what they “felt” or "thought” at the time. Those are two things a little hard to prove or disprove in a court of law. I’m reminded of the kid in Greenville that was shot in the head over an alleged pot bust, because he was “fleeing” and did not obey commands. In justifying this, we are basically elevating non-compliance with the spoken command of a police officer, to a death warrant. Do you wonder why people are fighting, running, doing everything they can to not be approached at all, no matter if they are doing anything wrong or not. There is a portion of society, that has done absolutely nothing wrong, but fear the police. They know the reality of the fact that any contact with law enforcement whatsoever, can way too easily be “bridged” into a charge regarding compliance or something. They have no hope of defending accusations and charges, supported only by the reporting source and know they will have lukewarm representation, defended by an overworked system. They know their case will be shamelessly adjudicated with ease and “streamlining” as the focus, rather than honest justice.
wouldn't you fight, run or avoid contact whatsoever with a police that is not going to treat you justly? we are bringing this escalation of violence between law enforcement and the citizenry on ourselves. we are telling our youth, "we can do anything we want, based on how we feel or think at any given moment (if we are not right in doing so, it's justified because we are underpaid, have a dangerous job, we put ourselves on the line every day, we have the right o kill you before you so much as lay a hand on us) and you are supposed to just take it and shutup!"
now, you are the prosecutor, very knowledgeable in the law, you see these abuses take place and while wanting to support your law enforcement you cannot in good conscience continue with a prosecution that is merely the result of a badge heavy cop. what would you do?
Posted by In_Search_Of_Truth on May 12, 2008 at 9:07 a.m.
in response to mrjx
why is it we hear the same old crap that if someone insists on police officers demonstrating respect for your privacy rights, that you somehow have something to hide? i get so tired of all thse people who work for government or law enforcement that justify their unlawful, disrespectful, rights violating behavior because of the danger they potentially suffer. with this elitist attitude, law enforcement has elevated themselves to be above everyone else. please remember, all the qualifications one needs to be a police officer is a GED and a clean record. i guess i have to insert the requisite comment supporting our men and women in blue, but it is harder to do when you have some badge heavy bullies chasing badge bunnies and out to teach a lesson to anyone who doesn't agree.
our problem is, the training the officers are given, primarily revolves around what they are permitted to do by law and very little attention given to the rights of the person they are exercising their "will" on. a police state will only result in more officers being injured and killed. think ahead people! there are more citizens than there are police. you might crack the heads, falsely accuse, imprison for principle or whatever your thinking is, 99 out of 100. it's that one (or the child of one of the 100) that will end up getting you. I think we should provide/require ongoing education for anyone in uniform. and i'm not talking about teaching them the right words to say to win a conviction. you are supposed to represent the truth and the rule of law. not your personal take on "anything goes", "the end justifies the means" and "tell it to the judge". if people see you repeatedly break the law, that is the example they will follow as well.
to all law enforcement officers. if you want to make your job safer, WALK YOUR TALK! do unto others, as you would have them do unto you!
Posted by forrester123 on May 14, 2008 at 9:03 a.m.
in response to tanyawest78
The jail didn't work for the previous administration.
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